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Vedanta is an enquiry:

The main topics of Vedanta are

• Tatva ( Reality)

• Hita ( means of realization)

• Purushartha ( ultimate Goal)

Reality or Tatva is divided into two

• Para ( the ultimate ) or Paramatman

• Apara that what is dependent on the ultimate reality ;

This Apara is divided into two

• Individual souls that have consciousness ( Jeevatman)

• Material entities which have no consciousness ( material universe – Jagat) )

Thus the three realities the Vedanta talks about are

- Paramatman

- Jeevatma

- Jagat

Now we come to the Vedantic Enquiry. The nature of the relation between the three namely Paramatma, Jeevatma and the universe is the Vedantic enquiry.

Specifically

• The first and foremost enquiry is to know the relationship between Paramatma ( ultimate Realty) and Jeevatma ( the individual soul)

• The next enquiry is about the relationship between Paramatma, the individual soul and the body embodying the individual

• The third enquiry is about the individual soul and the material world ( Jagat)

In this all the three Paramatman , Jeeva ( individual) and jagat ( universe) are considered real – with the trio of Vedas , Brahma sutras and Bhagavad-Gita considered as sources .

Vedas have Bheda sruti bringing out the difference between Jeevatma and Paramatma, Abhedasruti bringing out the non-difference of Paramatma and Jeevatma and also the conciliatory statements which try to bridge the difference.

This three fold enquiry resulted in seemingly startling conclusions covering a range of views from the unequivocal Advaita which is Unitary and says there is only One Reality not three (Paramatman, you and Jagat all in one !), the Dvaita which recognizes two separate entities Paramatma and Jeevatma , and then there is Vishishtadvaita a qualified Unitary philosophy .

There is a Saiva system recognizing all the three ( Pati Pasu and Pasa) as inevitable three realities.

All of them base their arguments on the same Vedas.

The Sankara's defense of Advaita left even the western scholars staggered at the sweep of his arguments affirming a single reality that is the human being itself. Sankara has used the Vedas, Brahma Sutras and Bhagavad-Gita to fully establish the point of unitary soul (Advaita) in that sense the Vedas and philosophy affirmed by Sankara is secular.

The Purna prajna basing its philosophy on “Hari” alone (hari sharanam) as the center piece, Saivism basing its philosophy on Siva, Vishidtadvaita keeping the Paramatma and Jeevaatma virtually separate are probably easier to understand and assimilate.

The reference to the difficult river , in the story of Dasamanyaaya , is a very apt analogy and for that reason alone vedas and Vedantists talk hoarse about the step by step process for reaching the level of Sankara's Advaita.

So that is about the lines of … Vedantic Enquiry..

And this is not left as a metaphysical enquiry; the enquiry got embedded into the epics Ramayana and Mahabharata. The Upanishads talk about the same through subtle stories like the dialog between Yama and Nachiketa in Kathopanishad etc

So we continue our enquiry .

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May 18 , 2012

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Dasama skandha of Bhagavatam moves this week into chapter 86 covering Subhadra kalyanam.

Dasama skandha being the complete story of Krishna one may expect a more detailed treatment of Krishna's sisters's kidnapping and marriage. In fact though the whole story is narrated in twelve slokas only. There after it continues with a story of two of Krishna's disciples Srutadeva and King of Mithila . In the Bhagavatam itself the chapter 86 is named as " srutadeva anugraho naama Shadaseetitamodhyaayah".

An earlier posting ( mail announcement ) confused the Subhadrakalyanam with Sasirekhaparinayam , Sasirekha parinayam is Mayabazaar. Thanks to an alert reader ( L kotcherlakota) this was corrected . As for the detailed story of Subhadra Kalyam one may have to look into one of the eighteen Puraanaas !! We will talk about these eighteen Puraanaas some other time !!!

The story of Dasamanyaya talked about the ten men trying to cross a tumultuous swift flowing swirling river . That is a symbolic reference to the vedantic search . This issue also carries an elaboration on what is the Vedantic enquiry about. Vedantic enquiry is about the nature of relationship between Paramatma(the ultimate being) , Jeevaatma and Jagat ( universe). The various schools of Advaita ( only one with no second), Dvaita ( the two) , Vishishtadvaita are all based on the trio of Vedas , Brahma sutras and Bhagavadgita.

The story, "dasamanyaya" rings a bell for most people familiar with the story of Paramanndayya sishyulu - the disciples of a Swami Paramanandayya !! It is presented under one more thing

The information on a Trust in the name of a person dear to Kasarabadas namely Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao who scaled Academic and Professional heights. A profile of Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao is also added for information. This information is available at the links indicated above and the same are also carried under Trust

What is on the kasarabada.org?

For the new visitors we thought of adding a few lines on navigation , so that they may know what is available on Kasarabada.org !

We now have 85 chapters of Dasama Skandha of Bhagavatam. All these chapters ( stories on krishna) are listed byname and are available on a link on the Bhagavatam page

Under Ramayanam we have listed all the old issues on the Ramayanam page itself. These include down loads of Sankshipta Sundarakanda in Devanagari , Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam. All other links to earlier issues on Hanuman etc are also listed on Ramayanam page. Ramayanam page also lists the Ramayana Role models ( five) being presented for the last couple of months.

One more thing page lists all the earlier stories on its page

To see what is available from the earlier issues you only need to visit the three pages of Ramayanam , Bhagavatam and one more thing . The earlier articles on one more thing are also listed on the home page.

Om Tat Sat

_________________________________________________

Witty Wisdom !

- contributed by Kamaraju Turaga

__________________________________________________

Welcome to Kasarabada.org: ARCHIVES

One More thing

(This is about "dasamaa nyaaya". Vedantic teachers explain the real nature of self through the method of the tenth - "dasamanyaya". This is about explaining the philosophy underlying - "tatvam asi" - The story told in Vedantic books is elaborated under " one more thing" !! The story continues beyond Dasamanyaaya to"tatvam asi".)

Once ten men waded into a tumultuous swift flowing swirling river . None of them could swim and neither did they know the direction in the darkness.

They did reach the other side.

They wanted to know if they all reached safely !

So one of them counted the number of men and found only nine - because he did not count himself. He was sure one has drowned.

Then others counted and came to the same conclusion because each of them counted all the other nine.

So they began to bewail of the loss of their comrade

Another man passing by and being solicitous enquired about the cause of their grief . He was told when they were crossing one of their comrades drowned. In no time the stranger found out their mistake.

The stranger asked one of them to count. He counted nine and he said "you see, we have lost the tenth!!".

The stranger then touched the man and said " Thou art that" , (the tenth)

In order to reassure all, he made them count and repeated the same thing with all of them. So their anguish disappeared and happiness returned.

Like wise the disciple searches every where and comes to the teacher and tells him that he has searched for the truth everywhere - in books , in temples , in images , in heaven - and he has not found it !!!.

Of course he has not sought the truth in the right place, that is to say in his own self .

So the teacher touches him emphatically and says :

more.. To continue reading click here

The earlier stories.

Charvaka School of Philosophy

On Vedas from the West

Jayamantram

The story of a Bear ( from Ramayana)

Ramudu-Sugunaabhiraamudu

Sahasavidadhita na kriyam..

... 'no not in a hurry'!

Aham nasyaami .. I destroy !! contributed by Tuaraga Rajendraparasad.

"It is not that the holy waters are not altogether Holy

An intelligent man should follow those actions that are consistent and within his realm of action ..( more)

.. I am enquiring , that should be clearly explained! …." Thus spoke Krishna.(more.).

" Peace does not drop from the sky" says Dalai Lama.

Passing away of a stalwart:

Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao

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unison of thought speech and action

Jewel of jewels'

Who is Poor ?

Green message from Bhagava...

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	Athato Brahma Jig... Athato Brahma jignyasaa Vedanta is an enquiry: The main topics of Vedanta are • Tatva ( Reality) • Hita ( means of realization) • Purushartha ( ultimate Goal) Reality or Tatva is divided into two • Para ( the ultimate ) or Paramatman • Apara that what is dependent on the ultimate reality ; This Apara is divided into two • Individual souls that have consciousness ( Jeevatman) • Material entities which have no consciousness ( material universe – Jagat) ) Thus the three realities the Vedanta talks about are - Paramatman - Jeevatma - Jagat Now we come to the Vedantic Enquiry. The nature of the relation between the three namely Paramatma, Jeevatma and the universe is the Vedantic enquiry. Specifically • The first and foremost enquiry is to know the relationship between Paramatma ( ultimate Realty) and Jeevatma ( the individual soul) • The next enquiry is about the relationship between Paramatma, the individual soul and the body embodying the individual • The third enquiry is about the individual soul and the material world ( Jagat) In this all the three Paramatman , Jeeva ( individual) and jagat ( universe) are considered real – with the trio of Vedas , Brahma sutras and Bhagavad-Gita considered as sources . Vedas have Bheda sruti bringing out the difference between Jeevatma and Paramatma, Abhedasruti bringing out the non-difference of Paramatma and Jeevatma and also the conciliatory statements which try to bridge the difference. This three fold enquiry resulted in seemingly startling conclusions covering a range of views from the unequivocal Advaita which is Unitary and says there is only One Reality not three (Paramatman, you and Jagat all in one !), the Dvaita which recognizes two separate entities Paramatma and Jeevatma , and then there is Vishishtadvaita a qualified Unitary philosophy . There is a Saiva system recognizing all the three ( Pati Pasu and Pasa) as inevitable three realities. All of them base their arguments on the same Vedas. The Sankara's defense of Advaita left even the western scholars staggered at the sweep of his arguments affirming a single reality that is the human being itself. Sankara has used the Vedas, Brahma Sutras and Bhagavad-Gita to fully establish the point of unitary soul (Advaita) in that sense the Vedas and philosophy affirmed by Sankara is secular. The Purna prajna basing its philosophy on “Hari” alone (hari sharanam) as the center piece, Saivism basing its philosophy on Siva, Vishidtadvaita keeping the Paramatma and Jeevaatma virtually separate are probably easier to understand and assimilate. The reference to the difficult river , in the story of Dasamanyaaya , is a very apt analogy and for that reason alone vedas and Vedantists talk hoarse about the step by step process for reaching the level of Sankara's Advaita. So that is about the lines of … Vedantic Enquiry.. And this is not left as a metaphysical enquiry; the enquiry got embedded into the epics Ramayana and Mahabharata. The Upanishads talk about the same through subtle stories like the dialog between Yama and Nachiketa in Kathopanishad etc So we continue our enquiry . Click here to continue .... om tat Sat The Vedas The Mahavakyas Upanishads Kathopanishad 1.1 Kathopanishad1.2 Kathopanishad 1.3	Welcome to kasarabada.org : May 18 , 2012 Welcome to kasarabada.org Dasama skandha of Bhagavatam moves this week into chapter 86 covering Subhadra kalyanam. Dasama skandha being the complete story of Krishna one may expect a more detailed treatment of Krishna's sisters's kidnapping and marriage. In fact though the whole story is narrated in twelve slokas only. There after it continues with a story of two of Krishna's disciples Srutadeva and King of Mithila . In the Bhagavatam itself the chapter 86 is named as " srutadeva anugraho naama Shadaseetitamodhyaayah". An earlier posting ( mail announcement ) confused the Subhadrakalyanam with Sasirekhaparinayam , Sasirekha parinayam is Mayabazaar. Thanks to an alert reader ( L kotcherlakota) this was corrected . As for the detailed story of Subhadra Kalyam one may have to look into one of the eighteen Puraanaas !! We will talk about these eighteen Puraanaas some other time !!! The story of Dasamanyaya talked about the ten men trying to cross a tumultuous swift flowing swirling river . That is a symbolic reference to the vedantic search . This issue also carries an elaboration on what is the Vedantic enquiry about. Vedantic enquiry is about the nature of relationship between Paramatma(the ultimate being) , Jeevaatma and Jagat ( universe). The various schools of Advaita ( only one with no second), Dvaita ( the two) , Vishishtadvaita are all based on the trio of Vedas , Brahma sutras and Bhagavadgita. The story, "dasamanyaya" rings a bell for most people familiar with the story of Paramanndayya sishyulu - the disciples of a Swami Paramanandayya !! It is presented under one more thing The information on a Trust in the name of a person dear to Kasarabadas namely Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao who scaled Academic and Professional heights. A profile of Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao is also added for information. This information is available at the links indicated above and the same are also carried under Trust What is on the kasarabada.org? For the new visitors we thought of adding a few lines on navigation , so that they may know what is available on Kasarabada.org ! We now have 85 chapters of Dasama Skandha of Bhagavatam. All these chapters ( stories on krishna) are listed byname and are available on a link on the Bhagavatam page Under Ramayanam we have listed all the old issues on the Ramayanam page itself. These include down loads of Sankshipta Sundarakanda in Devanagari , Telugu, Kannada and Malayalam. All other links to earlier issues on Hanuman etc are also listed on Ramayanam page. Ramayanam page also lists the Ramayana Role models ( five) being presented for the last couple of months. One more thing page lists all the earlier stories on its page To see what is available from the earlier issues you only need to visit the three pages of Ramayanam , Bhagavatam and one more thing . The earlier articles on one more thing are also listed on the home page. Om Tat Sat _________________________________________________ Witty Wisdom ! - contributed by Kamaraju Turaga __________________________________________________ Welcome to Kasarabada.org: ARCHIVES	One More thing (This is about "dasamaa nyaaya". Vedantic teachers explain the real nature of self through the method of the tenth - "dasamanyaya". This is about explaining the philosophy underlying - "tatvam asi" - The story told in Vedantic books is elaborated under " one more thing" !! The story continues beyond Dasamanyaaya to"tatvam asi".) Once ten men waded into a tumultuous swift flowing swirling river . None of them could swim and neither did they know the direction in the darkness. They did reach the other side. They wanted to know if they all reached safely ! So one of them counted the number of men and found only nine - because he did not count himself. He was sure one has drowned. Then others counted and came to the same conclusion because each of them counted all the other nine. So they began to bewail of the loss of their comrade Another man passing by and being solicitous enquired about the cause of their grief . He was told when they were crossing one of their comrades drowned. In no time the stranger found out their mistake. The stranger asked one of them to count. He counted nine and he said "you see, we have lost the tenth!!". The stranger then touched the man and said " Thou art that" , (the tenth) In order to reassure all, he made them count and repeated the same thing with all of them. So their anguish disappeared and happiness returned. Like wise the disciple searches every where and comes to the teacher and tells him that he has searched for the truth everywhere - in books , in temples , in images , in heaven - and he has not found it !!!. Of course he has not sought the truth in the right place, that is to say in his own self . So the teacher touches him emphatically and says : more.. To continue reading click here ______________ The earlier stories. On the Fortune on the Success The story of Sabari Charvaka School of Philosophy On Vedas from the West Jayamantram The story of a Bear ( from Ramayana) Ramudu-Sugunaabhiraamudu Sahasavidadhita na kriyam.. ... 'no not in a hurry'! Aham nasyaami .. I destroy !! contributed by Tuaraga Rajendraparasad. "It is not that the holy waters are not altogether Holy *An intelligent man should follow those actions that are consistent and within his realm of action* ..( more) *.. I am enquiring , that should be clearly explained! …."* Thus spoke Krishna.(more.). " Peace does not drop from the sky" says Dalai Lama. *Passing away of a stalwart:* Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao . ............ unison of thought speech and action Jewel of jewels' Who is Poor ? Green message from Bhagava... Music in our Epics what is kasara ?
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