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Purna Pragnya is one school of Philosophy which is easy ( relatively !!) to understand and probably easy to relate to !!

It is the one which propounds Dvaita, the two separate entities Paramatma (Hari) and Jivaatma (you and me). This is unlike the Advaita.

The Purna pragnya Darsana or Dvaita system of Vedanta is founded by Madhvacharya. The followers of this system are called Madhvas. The Upanishads have texts expounding the difference as well as non- difference between Paramatman and the Jivaatma. It is Madhvacharya argument that the texts expounding difference are the real teachings. This philosophy arose as a reaction mostly against Advaita whose arguments were seen to be too difficult for common people.

The principle of Dvaita is stated in the following

The principal realities according to Madhvacharya are only two.

The Independent one (Svatantram) is Vishnu without blemish and with inexhaustible excellences or capabilities!!

The dependent ones ( paratantram ) being all the rest of us !!

So it is Hari and Hari alone who is the master of everything

Madhvacharya identified Brahman as Vishnu (or Narayana ), the principle deity of Hinduism. Though in the normal sense Hindus pray to the triumvirate of Brahma, Vishnu and Maheswara – it is Vishnu who occupies the central position. As per Madhvas or the followers of Madhvacharya,Dvaita represents a combination of Vaishnava cult in the Hindu religion with Upanishadic flavor. Devotion to Vishnu occupies the central focus in Dvaita.

So what are the prescribed methods of Seva?

-Ankanam.. narayanasya ayudhadinaam -

-Naamakaranam kesavaadi naamnaa -

-Bhajanam Dasavidham

Ankanam is painting oneself with the weapons of Narayana namely the discuss and Conch. Discuss on the right hand and conch shell on his left hand.

Namakaranam ( of children) is for the purpose of continuous reminder of the Hari . You name your children with Kesava etc.

Bhajanam is ten types

Madhvacharya also defined means of validating knowledge.He used the same to establish the primary principle of Dvaita. To get a taste of the trenchant logic used by these we need to go through only one statement.

Consider the Statement that the world is false.

If the Statement is True then the whole Dvaita falls. Since we believe in Dvaita the statement has to be false. Of course this is a false Logic. It is like answering the question Is the transitoriness permanent or transitory. There is a difficulty in either case. The proof of the “permanence of the transitory” as both permanent and transitory is something of a delight only to logicians.

In fact there is a one Sloka which neatly summarizes the whole philosophy. That is as follows :

It is a philosophy with virtual ten commandments . The first one is,-

Hari alone is supreme.

It is like saying “Hari sharanam" It is the experience of one and all that there is some unseen force behind this existence maintenance and other activities of the world. That unseen force is Lord Vishnu. He is the controller of all our destinies and becomes the object of worship.

This world is real .

This recognizes the reality of the world as is !!

On the basis of valid means of knowledge namely such as Perception Madhvacharya accepts that this world with its experiences as real. According to Madhvaharya even Srutis are to be interpreted based on perception only. According to him anything real even for a moment ( of time) is real enough . To be real it need not be eternal or time invariant. There is no Maya as asserted by Advaitins !

The "Difference" is Fundamental. The difference between Paramatma ( Lord) and Jivaatma (our self) ; Jivaatma and Jivaatma , meaning that one self is different from another ; Jivaatma and inanimate objects; Paramatma and inanimate objects , and differences among inanimate objects. This five fold difference is fundamental. This is based on the perceived reality.

The Souls are dependent on Hari ( Vishnu).The Souls are different from inanimate matter. Souls are dependent on the Paramatma for their existence activity and liberation. (Kathopanishad also states the same)

The Souls are graded higher and lower based on preponderance of the three Gunas “Satva” “Rajas” and “Tamas”. For those dominated by “Satva”, it is in their nature to do good. They are fit for liberation. The spiritually inclined fall into this category. For those dominated by “Rajas”, they are neither fully good nor bad. They are not fit for liberation . But they are also not not condemned for suffering. They are forever in the cycle of birth and death. For those dominated by “Tamas”, evil is their nature and they are for ever condemned to suffer. Thus the last two categories namely Rajas and Tamas are not destined for liberation. It also means that philosophy of “everybody getting liberation” is not accepted by Madhvacharya. Concept of everybody getting liberation is more sentimental than real according to Madhvacharya's Dvaita. Even within each category they accept differences (taratamya gradation) and hence the possibility of some getting liberation faster than the other is provided for and explained.

Liberation is enjoying one's own bliss. The first and foremost fact about Moksha is that it is accepted as the highest object ( Purushartha). For this reason it must be a state of unalloyed bliss. This also means that it presupposes the survival of one who experiences this. Bliss is here !

Pure devotion is the means to liberation. Liberation can be obtained by the grace of Hari only. This grace of God is obtained by those souls chosen and granted by him. This grace of God is possible only by true devotion. True devotion or True Bhakti is without desires !!. There is no wish list accompanying devotion!!

The perception etc 'the three' , are the means of valid knowledge. The three means of valid knowledge are “Perception”, “Inference” and “Verbal testimony”.

Thus Madhvacharya also defined the basis of acquiring knowledge. All his conclusions are based on these three means of obtaining valid knowledge only . The Srutis form part of verbal knowledge.

Lord Hari alone is the purport of all scriptures. This is supported by the Krishna's statement in Gita "Vedescha sarvai ahameva Vedyaha”. “I am alone made known by Vedas!!.

Madhvacharya supported each line as above with extensive extracts from the Vedas , Gita and Brahma Sutras !

We cannot close a explanation of Dvaita without touching on the explanation of“tatvamasi”, the statement that gets repeated in the dialog between Uddalaka and Svetaketu : “ Sa Atmaatatvamasi “ –

Madhvacharya explains it as “ Sa Atma Atatvamasi “ . "That Atma is not You" – that is Brahman ! This probably is correct explanation using Panini's Grammar.But this may not fit the logic of universality.

The beauty of all the Indian Schools of Philosophy is that they make framework of logic and fit everything into that .

All of them are quite argumentative. All of them define the valid means of affirming knowledge. And all of them base their argument using the same three scriptures – the Vedas, Brahma Sutras and The Gita.

Om tat Sat

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The earlier stories

The Vedas

The Mahavakyas

Upanishads

Kathopanishad 1.1

Kathopanishad1.2

Kathopanishad 1.3

Vedantic Enquiry

Welcome to kasarabada.org :

September 21 , 2012

Happy GaneshaChaturthi !

Kasarabada.org wishes Happy Ganesha Chaturthi to all of our readers though this issue is coming two days after the Ganesh Chaturthi !!

Ganesh chaturthi immediately reminds one of the "must part" of the day - namely hearing "the story". Every Ganesh Chaturthi we have a running battle at home – with my wife insisting that even if we do the Ganesh Puja we should avoid seeing moon ! , with my children chiming in then “what is the point of doing Ganesh Puja then !! " . In any case the story has an interesting embedded message in the the form of Lord Vishnu's advice to Lord Shiva in the sub-story of "Gajasura Samharam". There is one more message in the sub-story of Ganesha winning over the more agile Kumaraswami !! That is topic of this weeks "one more thing"!!!

The regular items of the week are Ramayan Sundarakanda which moves to the 11th chapter of Sundarakanda . and the Bhagavatam which moves to the 10th chapter of Uddhava Gita .

In Uddhava Gita chapter 10 , Lord Krishna details the eighteen mystic powers one obtains by practicing complicated Yogic processes. But interestingly Krishna adds in the end that "Learned experts in devotional service state that the mystic powers I have mentioned are actually impediments and are a waste of time for one that is practicing the supreme Yoga by which one achieves all perfections in life directly from me. Whatever powers can be achieved by .., austerities and mantras can be achieved by devotional service to me". Which is essentially saying that all the esoteric Yogas are more of diversions attracting one's imagination. But in the end if one is not distracted simple devotional service gives one all the powers !! Bhagavatam page carries additional notes on Yoga.

The fascination for the 'ityeshaa Manishaa mama' - 'this is my firm belief' as stated in Shankara's Manisha Panchakam leads us to continue the topic under "one more thing " . 'One more thing' will come back to this next week with the second Sloka !!. The last week "one more thing" was about the Sloka one of Manisha Panchakam. But the sloka uploaded was sloka two of Manisha panchakam . The same was corrected subsequently. Kasarabada.org regrets the lapse !!

This week's Athato Brahma jignyasa. continues with the elaboration of Purna Pragnya Darsanam of Madhvacharya presented last week.

om tat Sat

_________________________________________________

What is on the kasarabada.org?

For the new visitors we thought of adding a few lines on navigation , so that they may know what is available on Kasarabada.org !

We now have 89 chapters of Dasama Skandha of Bhagavatam. All these chapters (stories on Krishna) are listed by name and are available on a link on the Bhagavatam page.

We have complete bouquet of articles on Ramayana Role models from Ramayana namely Srirama , Sita , Hanuman , Jataayu , Sabari , Bharata , Lakshmana. Apart from these there were some special articles namely The Message of Ramayana , Going to the Forests and about Hanuman in "In the thick of the Battle " . Along the same lines are the earlier articles in praise of Hunuman 1 , Hanuman 2 and Valmiki Sundarakanda . Added to this bouquet is the Sundarakanda as a Telugu poem by Pandit Vijayraghavrao. We have also added some downloads specifically for the Sankshipta Sundarakanda ( with Sanskrit slokas) reproduced in different language scripts namely Sanskrit , Telugu , Kannada and Malayalam . There is also a Telugu Sundarakanda Katha for those interested in reading the same as a prose story !!,.

One more thing is a page where we get articles which could be on anything , informative and educative handled with a light heart and a touch of contemporary realities. The page lists all the earlier stories on its page

The last new column is Athato Brahma Jignyasaa . This page is focused on Indian Philosophy /Darsanas.This has been started a few months ago and all its earlier issues are listed on its page

In effect to have a look at what is available from the earlier issues you only need to visit the four pages of Ramayanam , Bhagavatam , one more thing. and Athato Brahma Jignyasaa.Each page of these banner pages carry the list of all earlier articles .

Om Tat Sat ( info@kasarabada.org)

Witty Wisdom

- contributed by Kamaraju Turaga

__________________________________________________

Welcome to Kasarabada.org: ARCHIVES

One More Thing

The story of Ganesh Chaturthi

Vinayaka chaturdhi is the day on which most of us get to hear the story that should be heard so that we do not get impacted by the Parvati Devi’s curse on the seeing Moon on ‘that’ day .

The Story is interesting on many counts.

First it starts with the story of Gajasura Samharam. Gajasura gets a boon from Lord Shiva that Shiva will stay in Gajasura's womb. With Shiva not being seen, Parvati goes to Lord Vishnu to save Lord Shiva like he did before ( as in the case of Bhasmasura). Vishnu realizes that Shiva is in the womb of Gajasura . So he goes there with a retinue of Gods in different forms and the Shiva's Nandi. The expedition results in Gajasura seeing the light. So Lord Shiva gets freed. Thereafter Lord Shiva himself praises Lord Vishnu. Vishnu has the parting word of advice to Lord Shiva namely not to entertain "Dushtaas”, the ones who are with crooked thoughts !!

That itself is a good point.

Shiva could not say no to "Dushta" because of Love for a Bhakta . While we are not like a Shiva - some times we too may not be able to say no to a Dushta because of our love for "the Goddess of wealth" who has no compunctions.

We come across situations where we are unable to say no to - not a Bhakta but to an opportunity !!

So many times we come across a situation of being on the side of wrong person and it seems worthwhile because at that moment it may seem like a winning point ; It can also be a case where we may happen to be on the side an argument which sounds so convenient which we also know firmly to be wrong !!

In both cases the point is clear.

It is wiser to stay away from a "Dushta" than fall for a short term convenience.

There is one more thing in the story that is the challenge set for Ganesha and Kumaraswami

In the Battle of Ganesha Versus Kumaraswami about who gets the Lordship of Obstacles , the challenge prescribed was without question impossible for Ganesha.

The challenge virtually pitted a mouse against a peacock. Ganesha was at a loss. He does not give up. He wins by asking Lord Shiva himself what is the solution. Lord Shiva teaches him the ”Narayana Mantra” reciting which has the affect of having bathed in all the rivers in the three worlds thus completing the task prescribed for the challenge. The result is that Kumaraswami sees Ganesha ahead at every place he visited in the three worlds, though Ganesha was right there at the start going around his parents !!

Everyone will have their own take , but one point of the story is certain- ‘do not give up on any task as impossible – like Ganesha find a way !!!”.

om tat Sat

to continue move on to the page of ' one more thing " click here

The earlier stories.

Manisha Panchakam Sloka 1

Manisha Panchakam

Who are you ??

Leader and the Led

Bhakthi and Self surrender

Why say so many words Part 2

Why say so many words Part 1

Gurus and lessons

Such a Simple message !!

Sundarakanda and the related Beliefs

Remembering Sribhashyam

Appalacharyulu garu

The methods of Elucidation

( Lakshana)

The story of the Jar/Kunda

The story of Devadatta

"Hitam Manohari cha" - revisited

Dasama Nyaya

On the Fortune - a demolition of its traits !!

on the Success

The story of Sabari

Charvaka School of Philosophy

On Vedas from the West

Jayamantram

The story of a Bear ( from Ramayana)

Ramudu-Sugunaabhiraamudu

Sahasavidadhita na kriyam..

... 'no not in a hurry'!

Aham nasyaami .. I destroy !! contributed by Tuaraga Rajendraparasad.

"It is not that the holy waters are not altogether Holy - Krishna

An intelligent man should follow those actions that are consistent and within his realm of action ..( more)

.. I am enquiring , that should be clearly explained! …." Thus spoke Krishna.(more.).

" Peace does not drop from the sky" says Dalai Lama.

Passing away of a stalwart:

Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao

. ............

Unison of thought speech and action

Jewel of jewels'

Who is Poor ?

Green message from Bhagava...

Music in our Epics

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	Athato Brahma..... Purna Pragnya Darsanam An elaboration on the Madhvacharya's Philosophy of Dvaita Purna pragnya Darsanam- An Elaboration on the Madhvacharya's Dvaita Purna Pragnya is one school of Philosophy which is easy ( relatively !!) to understand and probably easy to relate to !! It is the one which propounds Dvaita, the two separate entities Paramatma (Hari) and Jivaatma (you and me). This is unlike the Advaita. The Purna pragnya Darsana or Dvaita system of Vedanta is founded by Madhvacharya. The followers of this system are called Madhvas. The Upanishads have texts expounding the difference as well as non- difference between Paramatman and the Jivaatma. It is Madhvacharya argument that the texts expounding difference are the real teachings. This philosophy arose as a reaction mostly against Advaita whose arguments were seen to be too difficult for common people. The principle of Dvaita is stated in the following The principal realities according to Madhvacharya are only two. The Independent one (Svatantram) is Vishnu without blemish and with inexhaustible excellences or capabilities!! The dependent ones ( paratantram ) being all the rest of us !! So it is Hari and Hari alone who is the master of everything Madhvacharya identified Brahman as Vishnu (or Narayana ), the principle deity of Hinduism. Though in the normal sense Hindus pray to the triumvirate of Brahma, Vishnu and Maheswara – it is Vishnu who occupies the central position. As per Madhvas or the followers of Madhvacharya,Dvaita represents a combination of Vaishnava cult in the Hindu religion with Upanishadic flavor. Devotion to Vishnu occupies the central focus in Dvaita. So what are the prescribed methods of Seva? *-Ankanam.. narayanasya ayudhadinaam -* *-Naamakaranam kesavaadi naamnaa -* *-Bhajanam* *Dasavidham* Ankanam is painting oneself with the weapons of Narayana namely the discuss and Conch. Discuss on the right hand and conch shell on his left hand. Namakaranam ( of children) is for the purpose of continuous reminder of the Hari . You name your children with Kesava etc. Bhajanam is ten types Madhvacharya also defined means of validating knowledge.He used the same to establish the primary principle of Dvaita. To get a taste of the trenchant logic used by these we need to go through only one statement. Consider the Statement that the world is false. If the Statement is True then the whole Dvaita falls. Since we believe in Dvaita the statement has to be false. Of course this is a false Logic. It is like answering the question Is the transitoriness permanent or transitory. There is a difficulty in either case. The proof of the “permanence of the transitory” as both permanent and transitory is something of a delight only to logicians. In fact there is a one Sloka which neatly summarizes the whole philosophy. That is as follows : It is a philosophy with virtual ten commandments . The first one is,- Hari alone is supreme. It is like saying *“Hari sharanam"* It is the experience of one and all that there is some unseen force behind this existence maintenance and other activities of the world. That unseen force is Lord Vishnu. He is the controller of all our destinies and becomes the object of worship. This world is real . This recognizes the reality of the world as is !! On the basis of valid means of knowledge namely such as Perception Madhvacharya accepts that this world with its experiences as real. According to Madhvaharya even Srutis are to be interpreted based on perception only. According to him anything real even for a moment ( of time) is real enough . To be real it need not be eternal or time invariant. There is no Maya as asserted by Advaitins ! The "Difference" is Fundamental. The difference between Paramatma ( Lord) and Jivaatma (our self) ; Jivaatma and Jivaatma , meaning that one self is different from another ; Jivaatma and inanimate objects; Paramatma and inanimate objects , and differences among inanimate objects. This five fold difference is fundamental. This is based on the perceived reality. The Souls are dependent on Hari ( Vishnu).The Souls are different from inanimate matter. Souls are dependent on the Paramatma for their existence activity and liberation. (Kathopanishad also states the same) The Souls are graded higher and lower based on preponderance of the three Gunas “Satva” “Rajas” and “Tamas”. For those dominated by “Satva”, it is in their nature to do good. They are fit for liberation. The spiritually inclined fall into this category. For those dominated by “Rajas”, they are neither fully good nor bad. They are not fit for liberation . But they are also not not condemned for suffering. They are forever in the cycle of birth and death. For those dominated by “Tamas”, evil is their nature and they are for ever condemned to suffer. Thus the last two categories namely Rajas and Tamas are not destined for liberation. It also means that philosophy of “everybody getting liberation” is not accepted by Madhvacharya. Concept of everybody getting liberation is more sentimental than real according to Madhvacharya's Dvaita. Even within each category they accept differences (taratamya gradation) and hence the possibility of some getting liberation faster than the other is provided for and explained. Liberation is enjoying one's own bliss. The first and foremost fact about Moksha is that it is accepted as the highest object ( Purushartha). For this reason it must be a state of unalloyed bliss. This also means that it presupposes the survival of one who experiences this. Bliss is here ! Pure devotion is the means to liberation. Liberation can be obtained by the grace of Hari only. This grace of God is obtained by those souls chosen and granted by him. This grace of God is possible only by true devotion. True devotion or True Bhakti is without desires !!. There is no wish list accompanying devotion!! The perception etc 'the three' , are the means of valid knowledge. The three means of valid knowledge are “Perception”, “Inference” and “Verbal testimony”. Thus Madhvacharya also defined the basis of acquiring knowledge. All his conclusions are based on these three means of obtaining valid knowledge only . The Srutis form part of verbal knowledge. Lord Hari alone is the purport of all scriptures. This is supported by the Krishna's statement in Gita "Vedescha sarvai ahameva Vedyaha”. “I am alone made known by Vedas!!. Madhvacharya supported each line as above with extensive extracts from the Vedas , Gita and Brahma Sutras ! We cannot close a explanation of Dvaita without touching on the explanation of“tatvamasi”, the statement that gets repeated in the dialog between Uddalaka and Svetaketu : “ *Sa Atmaatatvamasi* “ – Madhvacharya explains it as “ *Sa Atma Atatvamasi “ .* "That Atma is not You" – that is Brahman ! This probably is correct explanation using Panini's Grammar.But this may not fit the logic of universality. The beauty of all the Indian Schools of Philosophy is that they make framework of logic and fit everything into that . All of them are quite argumentative. All of them define the valid means of affirming knowledge. And all of them base their argument using the same three scriptures – the Vedas, Brahma Sutras and The Gita. Om tat Sat Click here to continue .... The earlier stories The Vedas The Mahavakyas Upanishads Kathopanishad 1.1 Kathopanishad1.2 Kathopanishad 1.3 Vedantic Enquiry	Welcome to kasarabada.org : September 21 , 2012 Happy GaneshaChaturthi ! Kasarabada.org wishes Happy Ganesha Chaturthi to all of our readers though this issue is coming two days after the Ganesh Chaturthi !! Ganesh chaturthi immediately reminds one of the "must part" of the day - namely hearing "the story". Every Ganesh Chaturthi we have a running battle at home – with my wife insisting that even if we do the Ganesh Puja we should avoid seeing moon ! , with my children chiming in then “what is the point of doing Ganesh Puja then !! " . In any case the story has an interesting embedded message in the the form of Lord Vishnu's advice to Lord Shiva in the sub-story of "Gajasura Samharam". There is one more message in the sub-story of Ganesha winning over the more agile Kumaraswami !! That is topic of this weeks "one more thing"!!! The regular items of the week are Ramayan Sundarakanda which moves to the 11th chapter of Sundarakanda . and the Bhagavatam which moves to the 10th chapter of Uddhava Gita . In Uddhava Gita chapter 10 , Lord Krishna details the eighteen mystic powers one obtains by practicing complicated Yogic processes. But interestingly Krishna adds in the end that "Learned experts in devotional service state that the mystic powers I have mentioned are actually impediments and are a waste of time for one that is practicing the supreme Yoga by which one achieves all perfections in life directly from me. Whatever powers can be achieved by .., austerities and mantras can be achieved by devotional service to me". Which is essentially saying that all the esoteric Yogas are more of diversions attracting one's imagination. But in the end if one is not distracted simple devotional service gives one all the powers !! Bhagavatam page carries additional notes on Yoga. The fascination for the 'ityeshaa Manishaa mama' - 'this is my firm belief' as stated in Shankara's Manisha Panchakam leads us to continue the topic under "one more thing " . 'One more thing' will come back to this next week with the second Sloka !!. The last week "one more thing" was about the Sloka one of Manisha Panchakam. But the sloka uploaded was sloka two of Manisha panchakam . The same was corrected subsequently. Kasarabada.org regrets the lapse !! This week's Athato Brahma jignyasa. continues with the elaboration of Purna Pragnya Darsanam of Madhvacharya presented last week. om tat Sat _________________________________________________ What is on the kasarabada.org? For the new visitors we thought of adding a few lines on navigation , so that they may know what is available on Kasarabada.org ! We now have 89 chapters of Dasama Skandha of Bhagavatam. All these chapters (stories on Krishna) are listed by name and are available on a link on the Bhagavatam page. We have complete bouquet of articles on Ramayana Role models from Ramayana namely Srirama , Sita , Hanuman , Jataayu , Sabari , Bharata , Lakshmana. Apart from these there were some special articles namely The Message of Ramayana , Going to the Forests and about Hanuman in "In the thick of the Battle " . Along the same lines are the earlier articles in praise of Hunuman 1 , Hanuman 2 and Valmiki Sundarakanda . Added to this bouquet is the Sundarakanda as a Telugu poem by Pandit Vijayraghavrao. We have also added some downloads specifically for the Sankshipta Sundarakanda ( with Sanskrit slokas) reproduced in different language scripts namely Sanskrit , Telugu , Kannada and Malayalam . There is also a Telugu Sundarakanda Katha for those interested in reading the same as a prose story !!,. One more thing is a page where we get articles which could be on anything , informative and educative handled with a light heart and a touch of contemporary realities. The page lists all the earlier stories on its page The last new column is Athato Brahma Jignyasaa . This page is focused on Indian Philosophy /Darsanas.This has been started a few months ago and all its earlier issues are listed on its page In effect to have a look at what is available from the earlier issues you only need to visit the four pages of Ramayanam , Bhagavatam , one more thing. and Athato Brahma Jignyasaa.Each page of these banner pages carry the list of all earlier articles . Om Tat Sat ( info@kasarabada.org) Witty Wisdom - contributed by Kamaraju Turaga __________________________________________________ Welcome to Kasarabada.org: ARCHIVES	One More Thing The story of Ganesh Chaturthi Vinayaka chaturdhi is the day on which most of us get to hear the story that should be heard so that we do not get impacted by the Parvati Devi’s curse on the seeing Moon on ‘that’ day . The Story is interesting on many counts. First it starts with the story of Gajasura Samharam. Gajasura gets a boon from Lord Shiva that Shiva will stay in Gajasura's womb. With Shiva not being seen, Parvati goes to Lord Vishnu to save Lord Shiva like he did before ( as in the case of Bhasmasura). Vishnu realizes that Shiva is in the womb of Gajasura . So he goes there with a retinue of Gods in different forms and the Shiva's Nandi. The expedition results in Gajasura seeing the light. So Lord Shiva gets freed. Thereafter Lord Shiva himself praises Lord Vishnu. Vishnu has the parting word of advice to Lord Shiva namely not to entertain "Dushtaas”, the ones who are with crooked thoughts !! That itself is a good point. Shiva could not say no to "Dushta" because of Love for a Bhakta . While we are not like a Shiva - some times we too may not be able to say no to a Dushta because of our love for "the Goddess of wealth" who has no compunctions. We come across situations where we are unable to say no to - not a Bhakta but to an opportunity !! So many times we come across a situation of being on the side of wrong person and it seems worthwhile because at that moment it may seem like a winning point ; It can also be a case where we may happen to be on the side an argument which sounds so convenient which we also know firmly to be wrong !! In both cases the point is clear. It is wiser to stay away from a "Dushta" than fall for a short term convenience. There is one more thing in the story that is the challenge set for Ganesha and Kumaraswami In the Battle of Ganesha Versus Kumaraswami about who gets the Lordship of Obstacles , the challenge prescribed was without question impossible for Ganesha. The challenge virtually pitted a mouse against a peacock. Ganesha was at a loss. He does not give up. He wins by asking Lord Shiva himself what is the solution. Lord Shiva teaches him the ”Narayana Mantra” reciting which has the affect of having bathed in all the rivers in the three worlds thus completing the task prescribed for the challenge. The result is that Kumaraswami sees Ganesha ahead at every place he visited in the three worlds, though Ganesha was right there at the start going around his parents !! Everyone will have their own take , but one point of the story is certain- ‘do not give up on any task as impossible – like Ganesha find a way !!!”. om tat Sat *to continue move on to the page of ' one more thing " click here* The earlier stories. Manisha Panchakam Sloka 1 Manisha Panchakam Who are you ?? Leader and the Led Bhakthi and Self surrender Why say so many words Part 2 Why say so many words Part 1 Gurus and lessons Such a Simple message !! Sundarakanda and the related Beliefs Remembering Sribhashyam Appalacharyulu garu The methods of Elucidation ( Lakshana) The story of the Jar/Kunda The story of Devadatta "Hitam Manohari cha" - revisited Dasama Nyaya On the Fortune - a demolition of its traits !! on the Success The story of Sabari Charvaka School of Philosophy On Vedas from the West Jayamantram The story of a Bear ( from Ramayana) Ramudu-Sugunaabhiraamudu Sahasavidadhita na kriyam.. ... 'no not in a hurry'! Aham nasyaami .. I destroy !! contributed by Tuaraga Rajendraparasad. "It is not that the holy waters are not altogether Holy - Krishna *An intelligent man should follow those actions that are consistent and within his realm of action* ..( more) *.. I am enquiring , that should be clearly explained! …."* Thus spoke Krishna.(more.). " Peace does not drop from the sky" says Dalai Lama. *Passing away of a stalwart:* Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao . ............ Unison of thought speech and action Jewel of jewels' Who is Poor ? Green message from Bhagava... Music in our Epics what is kasara ?
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