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The Katho Upanishad

The Katho Upanishad 1.3 ( contd.,.)

In the tradition of conveying a complex subject through the use of a subtle parable the Kathopanishad starts with the story of a Rishi Vajasravas and his son Nachiketa.The dialog of Nachiketa with Lord Yama carries the message of the Upanishad.

Rishi Vajasravas performs 'Viswajit' sacrifice which involves giving away all his wealth. His son Nachiketa notices that his father is giving away gifts( cows) which are of no use. Very much concerned and trying to grab the attention of his father he asks his father to whom will he give 'Nachiketa'. Father being busy with the rituals and with without realizing says "to death". There upon to keep his fathers word Nachiketa moves to Yama's world. Yama was away when Nachiketa reaches the place. He waits for three nights till Yama returns. Alerted that a Brahman was waiting for him for three days without partaking anything as a guest , Yama offers him three boons for the three nights he waited. For the first boon Nachiketa wants to understand the Fire sacrifice and for the Second boon he wants that his Father be free of anxiety and be happy . Both the boons being granted Nachiketa asks for the third boon the knowledge about "hereafter". Nachiketa says that some say there is life after death some say not and he wants to know what happens after death. Yama tries to dissuade him with all sorts of worldly boons. Nachiketa could not be deterred. Yama tells him even Devas do not know, it is too difficult to understand . Nachiketa still insists on the knowledge then Yama relents.

Yama tells first about the word "om" as the vehicle for achieving his goal. Then he talks about self. This self cannot be known through study, nor through intellect, nor through hearing. It can be known through the self alone the aspirant prays to. The self of the seeker reveals its true nature to the seeker.

So the kathopanishad continues into valli three of First Adhyaya ..

Yama continues talking about self:

There are two dwelling in the heart of hearts who enjoy the fruits of good deeds in this world.

They are like light and shade , the Jeevaatma and paramaatma . May we acquire the knowledge of Brahman in his manifested form as Lord of Sacrifice and for those who follow the path of wisdom in his un manifested form as the eternal Supreme being.

Yama continues comparing Body to a chariot.

Know Body as the chariot and the Atman as the Lord of the Chariot.

Know the intellect as the driver and the mind as the reins.

The senses are called the horses and the sense objects as the Roads.

Yama continues the parable of the body as chariot and self as the Lord of the chariot.The intellect or the discriminating faculty as the driver who controls the wild horses which are the senses by firmly holding the reins of mind . The roads on which these horses travel are full of objects which attract or repel the senses( horses).The sense of smelling follows the path of sweet odors, the sense of sight follows the path of beautiful objects. Thus each sense ( horse) unless controlled by a discriminating Mind seeks to towards its special objects.

When the self( Atman) is joined with the body mind and senses it is called intelligent enjoyer.

Yama goes on;

He who does not possess discrimination, whose mind is uncontrolled and always impure he does not reach the Goal but falls into the cycle of Samsara

But he who possess the right discrimination whose mind is under control and always pure he reaches the Goal from which he is not born again .

The man who has a discriminative intellect for driver and a controlled mind for reins reaches the end of journey the highest place of the Supreme being.

O Nachiketa , know that beyond senses are the objects, beyond objects is the mind and beyond mind is the intellect and beyond intellect is the Atman.

Beyond the Atman is the un manifested supreme being . beyond that there is nothing. That is the end and that is the final Goal

This Atman hidden in all beings does not shine forth , but it is seen by the seers with subtle understanding

A wise man should control speech by mind, mind by intellect , intellect by Atman.and that by Paramaatma.

Arise and awake, seek the Great ones ( gurus) , gain understanding .The path is difficult to travel declare the wise.

Knowing that which is soundless , touch less. formless , tasteless , odorless un decaying,beginning less, endless and immutable , knowing that man escapes death.

The intelligent man who has heard and repeated the story of Nachiketa as instructed by Yama is glorified in the world of Brahman.

He who recites this highest secret of immortality before an assembly of Brahmans or at the time of Shraddha( funeral ceremony) he gains everlasting reward.

om tat sat

Om tat Sat

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The earlier stories

The Vedas

The Mahavakyas

Upanishads

Kathopanishad 1.1

Kathopanishad1.2

Kathopanishad 1.3

Vedantic Enquiry

Notes from Kathopanishad

- Blind leading Blind etc

- Good Vs Pleasant

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We are continuing stories from Kathopanishad which Swami Chinmayananda called as Dialog with Death. This week we have the story comparing "body" to a chariot "Self as the master of the chariot". Last week we had a story in the form of notes on Kathopanishad titled' Good Vs Pleasant". Earlier we had also presented "Blind led by Blind" an age old theme that probably made its presence ( 1000 BC?) for the first time in Kathopansihad. Under Athato column we are presenting the Kathopanishad part 3 this week.

As stated this week Ramayan Sundarakanda moves to the 21 st Chapter of Sundarakanda! ! In 21st Sita responds to Ravana's overture with a violent speech ! !!.

The one more thing continues with the notes on Kathopanishad

om tat Sat

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What is on the kasarabada.org?

For the new visitors we thought of adding a few lines on navigation , so that they may know what is available on Kasarabada.org !

We have attempted to bring Srimad Bhagavatam in our own way. What we started with is The Story of Krishna , Dasama Skandha or The Tenth Skandha of Maha Bhagavatam . We now have 89 chapters of Dasama Skandha of Bhagavatam. All these chapters (stories on Krishna) are listed by name and are available on a link on the Bhagavatam page.

We have complete bouquet of articles on Ramayana Role models from Ramayana namely Srirama , Sita , Hanuman , Jataayu , Sabari , Bharata , Lakshmana. Apart from these there were some special articles namely The Message of Ramayana , Going to the Forests and about Hanuman in "In the thick of the Battle " . Along the same lines are the earlier articles in praise of Hunuman 1 , Hanuman 2 and Valmiki Sundarakanda . Added to this bouquet is the Sundarakanda as a Telugu poem by Pandit Vijayraghavrao. We have also added some downloads specifically for the Sankshipta Sundarakanda ( with Sanskrit slokas) reproduced in different language scripts namely Sanskrit , Telugu , Kannada and Malayalam . There is also a Telugu Sundarakanda Katha for those interested in reading the same as a prose story !!,.

One more thing is a page where we get articles which could be on anything , informative and educative handled with a light heart and a touch of contemporary realities. The page lists all the earlier stories on its page

The last new column is Athato Brahma Jignyasaa . This page is focused on Indian Philosophy /Darsanas.This has been started a few months ago and all its earlier issues are listed on its page . This has notes on Vedas, Notes on Kathopanishad , About the The Four Mahavakyas of Upanishads

In effect to have a look at what is available from the earlier issues you only need to visit the four pages of Ramayanam , Bhagavatam , one more thing. and Athato Brahma Jignyasaa.Each page of these banner pages carry the list of all earlier articles .

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Self as the master of the chariot

and other notes from

Kathopanishad

Notes from Kathopanishad:

“ know the body as the chariot and self as the maser of the chariot . Intellect as the charioteer and the mind as the bridle with which the five horses or senses are

Probably this is the most famous analogy of the Hindu philosophy .

Self is the master of the chariot and the discriminating intellect is the charioteer. The reins that hold the senses is the mind . The intellect directs the mind in controlling the senses.

The senses and the instincts as they say are the horses and the sense objects are the roads . The wise call him the enjoyer who is united with senses and the mind.

One who is always of unrestrained mind and is devoid of right understanding , his sense organs become uncontrollable like the vicious horses

But one who has right understanding and has a mind which is always controlled ,, his senses are always under control like the good horses under the control of a charioteer .

The man of unrestrained mind goes through the endless cycle of birth and death

The man who is intelligent ever pure and with mind controlled reaches that goal form where there is no birth and death

The hierarchy, -

Beyond the sense are the sense objects , beyond the sense objects is the mind , beyond the mind is the intellect and beyond the intellect is the self which perceives all these.

This may seem like tricky statement. But a little thinking clears the air.

Beyond the senses is the sense objects perceived through the senses. The sense objects are form, touch , taste, smell . Beyond these sense objects is the mind which perceives them with aid of the senses and gives the picture of the form etc . The form etc reported by the mind are verified by the intellect and intellect directs the senses through the mind. Thus intellect lies beyond the mind.

Beyond the intellect is the Self which is directing the operation

Self is also the total intellect>

Beyond total intellect is the un manifest

Beyond the un manifest is the pure existence which is called by various names Purusha, Supreme, Brahman

When the body through mind controls the senses

It is the self which gets confused much like the Arjuna in the chariot in Mahabharata and Intellect is the Krishna.

If we go through this there is a chain in the lower half.

Senses- sense objects- mind – intellect – self

it is quite possible that intellect ( discrimination) is not used and self is directly operating and the resulting thoughts do not go beyond self.

om tat Sat

to continue move on to the page of ' one more thing " click here

The earlier stories.

Good Vs Pleasant from kathopanishad

Blind leading Blind - from Katha

Upanishad

The story of Ganesh Chaturthi

Manisha Panchakam Sloka 1

Manisha Panchakam

Who are you ??

Leader and the Led

Bhakthi and Self surrender

Why say so many words Part 2

Why say so many words Part 1

Gurus and lessons

Such a Simple message !!

Sundarakanda and the related Beliefs

Remembering Sribhashyam

Appalacharyulu garu

The methods of Elucidation

( Lakshana)

The story of the Jar/Kunda

The story of Devadatta

"Hitam Manohari cha" - revisited

Dasama Nyaya

On the Fortune - a demolition of its traits !!

on the Success

The story of Sabari

Charvaka School of Philosophy

On Vedas from the West

Jayamantram

The story of a Bear ( from Ramayana)

Ramudu-Sugunaabhiraamudu

Sahasavidadhita na kriyam..

... 'no not in a hurry'!

Aham nasyaami .. I destroy !! contributed by Tuaraga Rajendraparasad.

"It is not that the holy waters are not altogether Holy - Krishna

An intelligent man should follow those actions that are consistent and within his realm of action ..( more)

.. I am enquiring , that should be clearly explained! …." Thus spoke Krishna.(more.).

" Peace does not drop from the sky" says Dalai Lama.

Passing away of a stalwart:

Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao

. ............

Unison of thought speech and action

Jewel of jewels'

Who is Poor ?

Green message from Bhagava...

Music in our Epics

what is kasara ?

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	Athato Brahma..... Kathopanishad - Part 3 The *Katho Upanishad* The *Katho Upanishad 1.3 ( contd.,.)* In the tradition of conveying a complex subject through the use of a subtle parable the Kathopanishad starts with the story of a Rishi Vajasravas and his son Nachiketa.The dialog of Nachiketa with Lord Yama carries the message of the Upanishad. Rishi Vajasravas performs 'Viswajit' sacrifice which involves giving away all his wealth. His son Nachiketa notices that his father is giving away gifts( cows) which are of no use. Very much concerned and trying to grab the attention of his father he asks his father to whom will he give 'Nachiketa'. Father being busy with the rituals and with without realizing says "to death". There upon to keep his fathers word Nachiketa moves to Yama's world. Yama was away when Nachiketa reaches the place. He waits for three nights till Yama returns. Alerted that a Brahman was waiting for him for three days without partaking anything as a guest , Yama offers him three boons for the three nights he waited. For the first boon Nachiketa wants to understand the Fire sacrifice and for the Second boon he wants that his Father be free of anxiety and be happy . Both the boons being granted Nachiketa asks for the third boon the knowledge about "hereafter". Nachiketa says that some say there is life after death some say not and he wants to know what happens after death. Yama tries to dissuade him with all sorts of worldly boons. Nachiketa could not be deterred. Yama tells him even Devas do not know, it is too difficult to understand . Nachiketa still insists on the knowledge then Yama relents. Yama tells first about the word "om" as the vehicle for achieving his goal. Then he talks about self. This self cannot be known through study, nor through intellect, nor through hearing. It can be known through the self alone the aspirant prays to. The self of the seeker reveals its true nature to the seeker. So the kathopanishad continues into valli three of First Adhyaya .. Yama continues talking about self: There are two dwelling in the heart of hearts who enjoy the fruits of good deeds in this world. They are like light and shade , the Jeevaatma and paramaatma . May we acquire the knowledge of Brahman in his manifested form as Lord of Sacrifice and for those who follow the path of wisdom in his un manifested form as the eternal Supreme being. Yama continues comparing Body to a chariot. Know Body as the chariot and the Atman as the Lord of the Chariot. Know the intellect as the driver and the mind as the reins. The senses are called the horses and the sense objects as the Roads. Yama continues the parable of the body as chariot and self as the Lord of the chariot.The intellect or the discriminating faculty as the driver who controls the wild horses which are the senses by firmly holding the reins of mind . The roads on which these horses travel are full of objects which attract or repel the senses( horses).The sense of smelling follows the path of sweet odors, the sense of sight follows the path of beautiful objects. Thus each sense ( horse) unless controlled by a discriminating Mind seeks to towards its special objects. When the self( Atman) is joined with the body mind and senses it is called intelligent enjoyer. Yama goes on; He who does not possess discrimination, whose mind is uncontrolled and always impure he does not reach the Goal but falls into the cycle of Samsara But he who possess the right discrimination whose mind is under control and always pure he reaches the Goal from which he is not born again . The man who has a discriminative intellect for driver and a controlled mind for reins reaches the end of journey the highest place of the Supreme being. O Nachiketa , know that beyond senses are the objects, beyond objects is the mind and beyond mind is the intellect and beyond intellect is the Atman. Beyond the Atman is the un manifested supreme being . beyond that there is nothing. That is the end and that is the final Goal This Atman hidden in all beings does not shine forth , but it is seen by the seers with subtle understanding A wise man should control speech by mind, mind by intellect , intellect by Atman.and that by Paramaatma. Arise and awake, seek the Great ones ( gurus) , gain understanding .The path is difficult to travel declare the wise. Knowing that which is soundless , touch less. formless , tasteless , odorless un decaying,beginning less, endless and immutable , knowing that man escapes death. The intelligent man who has heard and repeated the story of Nachiketa as instructed by Yama is glorified in the world of Brahman. He who recites this highest secret of immortality before an assembly of Brahmans or at the time of Shraddha( funeral ceremony) he gains everlasting reward. om tat sat Om tat Sat Click here to continue .... The earlier stories The Vedas The Mahavakyas Upanishads Kathopanishad 1.1 Kathopanishad1.2 Kathopanishad 1.3 Vedantic Enquiry Notes from Kathopanishad - Blind leading Blind etc - Good Vs Pleasant	Welcome to kasarabada.org : November 30 , 2012 Welcome to Kasarabada.org !! We are continuing stories from Kathopanishad which Swami Chinmayananda called as Dialog with Death. This week we have the story comparing "body" to a chariot "Self as the master of the chariot". Last week we had a story in the form of notes on Kathopanishad titled' Good Vs Pleasant". Earlier we had also presented "Blind led by Blind" an age old theme that probably made its presence ( 1000 BC?) for the first time in Kathopansihad. Under Athato column we are presenting the Kathopanishad part 3 this week. As stated this week Ramayan Sundarakanda moves to the 21 st Chapter of Sundarakanda! ! In 21st Sita responds to Ravana's overture with a violent speech ! !!. The one more thing continues with the notes on Kathopanishad om tat Sat _________________________________________________ What is on the kasarabada.org? For the new visitors we thought of adding a few lines on navigation , so that they may know what is available on Kasarabada.org ! We have attempted to bring Srimad Bhagavatam in our own way. What we started with is The Story of Krishna , Dasama Skandha or The Tenth Skandha of Maha Bhagavatam . We now have 89 chapters of Dasama Skandha of Bhagavatam. All these chapters (stories on Krishna) are listed by name and are available on a link on the Bhagavatam page. We have complete bouquet of articles on Ramayana Role models from Ramayana namely Srirama , Sita , Hanuman , Jataayu , Sabari , Bharata , Lakshmana. Apart from these there were some special articles namely The Message of Ramayana , Going to the Forests and about Hanuman in "In the thick of the Battle " . Along the same lines are the earlier articles in praise of Hunuman 1 , Hanuman 2 and Valmiki Sundarakanda . Added to this bouquet is the Sundarakanda as a Telugu poem by Pandit Vijayraghavrao. We have also added some downloads specifically for the Sankshipta Sundarakanda ( with Sanskrit slokas) reproduced in different language scripts namely Sanskrit , Telugu , Kannada and Malayalam . There is also a Telugu Sundarakanda Katha for those interested in reading the same as a prose story !!,. One more thing is a page where we get articles which could be on anything , informative and educative handled with a light heart and a touch of contemporary realities. The page lists all the earlier stories on its page The last new column is Athato Brahma Jignyasaa . This page is focused on Indian Philosophy /Darsanas.This has been started a few months ago and all its earlier issues are listed on its page . This has notes on Vedas, Notes on Kathopanishad , About the The Four Mahavakyas of Upanishads In effect to have a look at what is available from the earlier issues you only need to visit the four pages of Ramayanam , Bhagavatam , one more thing. and Athato Brahma Jignyasaa.Each page of these banner pages carry the list of all earlier articles . Om Tat Sat ( info@kasarabada.org) Witty Wisdom - contributed by Kamaraju Turaga __________________________________________________ Welcome to Kasarabada.org: ARCHIVES	One More Thing Self as the master of the chariot and other notes from Kathopanishad Notes from Kathopanishad: *“ know the body as the chariot and self as the maser of the chariot . Intellect as the charioteer and the mind as the bridle with which the five horses or senses are* Probably this is the most famous analogy of the Hindu philosophy . Self is the master of the chariot and the discriminating intellect is the charioteer. The reins that hold the senses is the mind . The intellect directs the mind in controlling the senses. The senses and the instincts as they say are the horses and the sense objects are the roads . The wise call him the enjoyer who is united with senses and the mind. One who is always of unrestrained mind and is devoid of right understanding , his sense organs become uncontrollable like the vicious horses But one who has right understanding and has a mind which is always controlled ,, his senses are always under control like the good horses under the control of a charioteer . The man of unrestrained mind goes through the endless cycle of birth and death The man who is intelligent ever pure and with mind controlled reaches that goal form where there is no birth and death The hierarchy, - Beyond the sense are the sense objects , beyond the sense objects is the mind , beyond the mind is the intellect and beyond the intellect is the self which perceives all these. This may seem like tricky statement. But a little thinking clears the air. Beyond the senses is the sense objects perceived through the senses. The sense objects are form, touch , taste, smell . Beyond these sense objects is the mind which perceives them with aid of the senses and gives the picture of the form etc . The form etc reported by the mind are verified by the intellect and intellect directs the senses through the mind. Thus intellect lies beyond the mind. Beyond the intellect is the Self which is directing the operation Self is also the total intellect> Beyond total intellect is the un manifest Beyond the un manifest is the pure existence which is called by various names Purusha, Supreme, Brahman When the body through mind controls the senses It is the self which gets confused much like the Arjuna in the chariot in Mahabharata and Intellect is the Krishna. If we go through this there is a chain in the lower half. Senses- sense objects- mind – intellect – self it is quite possible that intellect ( discrimination) is not used and self is directly operating and the resulting thoughts do not go beyond self. om tat Sat *to continue move on to the page of ' one more thing " click here* The earlier stories. Good Vs Pleasant from kathopanishad Blind leading Blind - from Katha Upanishad The story of Ganesh Chaturthi Manisha Panchakam Sloka 1 Manisha Panchakam Who are you ?? Leader and the Led Bhakthi and Self surrender Why say so many words Part 2 Why say so many words Part 1 Gurus and lessons Such a Simple message !! Sundarakanda and the related Beliefs Remembering Sribhashyam Appalacharyulu garu The methods of Elucidation ( Lakshana) The story of the Jar/Kunda The story of Devadatta "Hitam Manohari cha" - revisited Dasama Nyaya On the Fortune - a demolition of its traits !! on the Success The story of Sabari Charvaka School of Philosophy On Vedas from the West Jayamantram The story of a Bear ( from Ramayana) Ramudu-Sugunaabhiraamudu Sahasavidadhita na kriyam.. ... 'no not in a hurry'! Aham nasyaami .. I destroy !! contributed by Tuaraga Rajendraparasad. "It is not that the holy waters are not altogether Holy - Krishna *An intelligent man should follow those actions that are consistent and within his realm of action* ..( more) *.. I am enquiring , that should be clearly explained! …."* Thus spoke Krishna.(more.). " Peace does not drop from the sky" says Dalai Lama. *Passing away of a stalwart:* Prof Bhavaraju Sarveswara Rao . ............ Unison of thought speech and action Jewel of jewels' Who is Poor ? Green message from Bhagava... Music in our Epics what is kasara ?
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